Discussion:
How Comfortable is a Crotch Rocket for a Long Trip?
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David T. Ashley
2008-02-08 18:58:06 UTC
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I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a review
that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. I also noted that the top
speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.

Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?

I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?

I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
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Paul Cassel
2008-02-08 19:06:01 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a review
that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. I also noted that the top
speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
It depends on you and your build. I find sportbike position to be ok but
I don't like the need to bend my neck back to see the road. The proper
position for a race bike on the track is not the proper position for the
street where you need to look out for cross traffic, pedestrians, etc.

The Busa is pretty comfortable and not really a full on sportsbike as
far as position. Compare with a 1098 or a 916 Duc and you'll see what I
mean. Anyway, I put Heli bars on mine raising the bars and also bringing
them closer to the seat. The bike then sat like a slightly aggressive
sport tourer. That was all it took to make the bike comfortable for any
reasonable distance.

-paul
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2008-02-08 19:13:45 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a review
that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. I also noted that the top
speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
For you or for the pillion? If you paid attention there was a post
from an R1 rider who had no problem piling up a lot of miles on
the bike. Keep in mind that the rice rockets typically have
tiny gas tanks so you'be forced to fuel up (and stretch if you're
smart)
every 110-150 miles. Which gets old pretty quickly but if you are a
glutton
for punishment you surely can do it being in what? 20s?
Post by David T. Ashley
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
There used to be a lot of choices for in-between riding positions.
Interceptor, YZF600 and ZZR600 provide such a position.
Post by David T. Ashley
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
Hayabusa is a perfect tool for bench racing. If you want to do a long
trip more than once then I suggest you get something with a higher
capacity tank and more relaxed riding position.

Somehow I think Yamaha FZ1 would work well for you.
From the looks of it you can drop the handlebar a bit lower
with an aftermarket handlebar kit lowering the point of the
bar mount 3-4".

Either that or get the pig you originally wanted.
Goes well with a tank top and shorts.
Andrew
2008-02-08 19:22:34 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a
review that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. I also noted that
the top speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
a Hayabusa would make a good sports tourer, it completely protects you from
the wind, and is pretty comfy for longer rides.
--
Andrew
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Seth Hammond
2008-02-08 19:39:51 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a
review that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. I also noted that
the top speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
--
While almost entirely subjective, choosing a motorcycle depends on your
riding skills and habits. Sport Touring bikes can be perfectly comfortable
at speed on the highway, but not so great in town or traffic. Windstream is
the culprit. A semi-racing crouch behind a small fairing allows that
windstream to help hold you up, which lightens the load on handle bars and
forearms. If you mount a tankbag, you can rest even more weight on it.
You'll find yourself stopping only for gas.
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
2008-02-08 19:47:51 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a
review that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. I also
noted that the top speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger
4-cylinder.
You don't say...
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Depends on you. I've ridden thousand-mile days on a BMW R100RS with flat
bars 600mm wide. Same on a naked R100 with RS bars. No problem for me.
Post by David T. Ashley
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels.
It looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
Ah, but the trick is that the wind on your upper chest and helmet holds
you up.
Post by David T. Ashley
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but
I'd just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for
traveling.
Stick with your 600 cruiser for a few years first...
--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
David T. Ashley
2008-02-08 20:49:11 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but
I'd just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for
traveling.
Stick with your 600 cruiser for a few years first...
I got the same advice from a guy at a Harley store in the Orlando airport.
He said having a bike to learn on for a couple years is the right move
before buying, for example, a Harley.

Us old people (I'm 45) are generally clever enough to recognize when
something is dangerous and to stay away from the edges of the envelope. A
sportbike would be pure waste at my level of skill and testosterone. But
I'd like to ride one once or twice just to know what the youngsters are
doing and why. I would not do 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. But 3.5 or 4 seconds
would be a fun ride for me ...
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
2008-02-08 21:38:17 UTC
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Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Post by David T. Ashley
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride,
but I'd just be curious what one is like and how practical it is
for traveling.
Stick with your 600 cruiser for a few years first...
I got the same advice from a guy at a Harley store in the Orlando
airport. He said having a bike to learn on for a couple years is the
right move before buying, for example, a Harley.
Must be good advice, then. Plan on getting that Harley sportbike in 2011
or so.
Post by David T. Ashley
Us old people (I'm 45)
Youngster!
Post by David T. Ashley
are generally clever enough to recognize when
something is dangerous and to stay away from the edges of the
envelope. A sportbike would be pure waste at my level of skill and
testosterone. But I'd like to ride one once or twice just to know
what the youngsters are doing and why. I would not do 0-60 in 2.5
seconds. But 3.5 or 4 seconds would be a fun ride for me ...
Rent a Corvette or a Mustang for a day. At least you have a smaller
chance of killing yourself.
--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
Calgary
2008-02-08 21:46:15 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Post by David T. Ashley
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but
I'd just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for
traveling.
Stick with your 600 cruiser for a few years first...
I got the same advice from a guy at a Harley store in the Orlando airport.
He said having a bike to learn on for a couple years is the right move
before buying, for example, a Harley.
Us old people (I'm 45) are generally clever enough to recognize when
something is dangerous and to stay away from the edges of the envelope. A
sportbike would be pure waste at my level of skill and testosterone. But
I'd like to ride one once or twice just to know what the youngsters are
doing and why. I would not do 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. But 3.5 or 4 seconds
would be a fun ride for me ...
I don't know what you are waiting for then. Go buy the damn thing. I
am sure you can handle it.


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See Ya On The Road

2000 Yamaha Venture Millennium
2004 HD Road King
timeOday
2008-02-08 15:26:16 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Post by David T. Ashley
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but
I'd just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for
traveling.
Stick with your 600 cruiser for a few years first...
I got the same advice from a guy at a Harley store in the Orlando airport.
He said having a bike to learn on for a couple years is the right move
before buying, for example, a Harley.
Us old people (I'm 45) are generally clever enough to recognize when
something is dangerous and to stay away from the edges of the envelope. A
sportbike would be pure waste at my level of skill and testosterone. But
I'd like to ride one once or twice just to know what the youngsters are
doing and why. I would not do 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. But 3.5 or 4 seconds
would be a fun ride for me ...
There's a huge difference in the cost and comfort level of bikes that do
0-60 in 2.5s vs 3.5s. We're talking hayabusa vs. SV-650 here.
(Actually I think it's about 2.8 vs 3.6 in that case).

Personally, I think you owe it to your wallet (if not your loved ones)
to at least try a "tamer" bike before ruling it out as insufficient.
For $4000 you can get a slightly used bike that will blow the doors off
any car you're likely to encounter, be comfortable for long distances,
and be cheap to operate and insure.

That said, a lot of people buy stuff for personal image so there must be
something to that.
unknown
2008-02-09 19:05:37 UTC
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Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Post by David T. Ashley
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but
I'd just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for
traveling.
Stick with your 600 cruiser for a few years first...
I got the same advice from a guy at a Harley store in the Orlando airport.
He said having a bike to learn on for a couple years is the right move
before buying, for example, a Harley.
Us old people (I'm 45) are generally clever enough to recognize when
something is dangerous and to stay away from the edges of the envelope. A
sportbike would be pure waste at my level of skill and testosterone. But
I'd like to ride one once or twice just to know what the youngsters are
doing and why. I would not do 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. But 3.5 or 4 seconds
would be a fun ride for me ...
I thought so too. Until an opportunity to buy a VF1000F Interceptor
came along for me. A nice clean early version of a sport bike that was
cheap enough to pay cash and get my money back if I didn't like it.
Sheeeeeeeet. That mofo was fun. Not too aggressive in the bar
position, but sporty enough to lead me further into temptation. I've
got an old Ninja in the garage that now belongs to the oldest boy and
I'm now in the market again. <g> Oh, I'm 50+. ;)
BryanUT
2008-02-09 20:11:52 UTC
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I'm now in the market again. <g> Oh, I'm 50+. ;)
What's wrong with the Terminator? That bikes seems to do it all.

Whatever you do, don't test ride a Ducati. :)
unknown
2008-02-09 22:21:34 UTC
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Post by unknown
I'm now in the market again. <g> Oh, I'm 50+. ;)
What's wrong with the Terminator? That bikes seems to do it all.
Whatever you do, don't test ride a Ducati. :)
Small and light this time to complement the GS. I'm thinking 250 ish
like someone's Sherpa for tight single track, of which Michigan has a
metric shitload. There were a few on AdvRider, but long gone now that
I have folding persuasion. Of course.
.
2008-02-08 19:53:54 UTC
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I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. �I noted in a review
that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. �
A Hayabusa will go 0-60 in THREE seconds. Without shifting gears. It
will reach 100 mph in 6 seconds, and you will have to shift ONCE.

If you decide to stop immediately, your total elapsed time will be
something like
14 seconds from dead stop to 100 MPH and back to dead stop.

The rapid 0-60 acceleration is very startling to oncoming traffic, if
you decide to
do that crossing an intersection. Sometimes drivers of oncoming cars
are planning to turn left into a business instead of going through the
interesection.
Steve T
2008-02-08 20:34:03 UTC
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"David T. Ashley" <***@e3ft.com> wrote:

:I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a review
:that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. I also noted that the top
:speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.
:
:Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?

I'm sure many will disagree, but if you are planning to ride more
than a few hundred miles in a day, forget it. Try the Concours14 or
the FZ1300 if you want a sport bike for touring.
--
BrianNZ
2008-02-08 21:11:23 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a review
that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. I also noted that the top
speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
A Hayabusa is hardly a 'crotch rocket' and would make an awesome sports
tourer.

The thing with sportsbikes, is they are designed for handling and
speed.....a fair trade-off for comfort! I used to easily do 500 mile
(800km) rides on my Aprilia with the only complaints being my
wrist/shoulder and leg.....all of which are old injuries so I can't
blame the bike. Sure , there would be more comfortable rides for the
straights, but when you are hunting the twisties in your travels,
nothing beats a sportsbike!

If you are worried about the throttle only being open 40%, kick it down
a couple of gears and enjoy.........
The Older Gentleman
2008-02-08 21:41:24 UTC
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Post by BrianNZ
I used to easily do 500 mile
(800km) rides on my Aprilia with the only complaints being my
wrist/shoulder and leg.....all of which are old injuries so I can't
blame the bike.
The odd thing about my Ducati is that it's comfortable on long trips,
which is the last thing I expected.

One reason is the seat: it's surprisingly large and well-padded.

The riding position isn't as extreme as it might be - in fact, it's
identical to my Yamaha RD350F2, late 1980s vintage.

I've done about 600 miles in a day on this bike. Not bad for a sports
machine.
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Jeff Mayner
2008-02-08 21:14:58 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a
review that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds.
lol

I also
Post by David T. Ashley
noted that the top speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger
4-cylinder.
Are you for real?
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Do _not_ buy one. Don't. Nein, nicht, es ist verbotten.
Post by David T. Ashley
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
Unless you're being blown off the back, yes.
Post by David T. Ashley
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but
I'd just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for
traveling.
I have a feeling you wouldn't get the thing out of first gear. That bike can
go faster in first than your 4 cyl. Ranger can go top end, or close to it.

If you must buy a "Sport"type bike get something smaller like a Honda CBR
F4i or a Suzuki Katana 750. You may well be able to find some still new
leftovers for cheap.
David T. Ashley
2008-02-08 21:34:25 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but
I'd just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for
traveling.
I have a feeling you wouldn't get the thing out of first gear. That bike
can go faster in first than your 4 cyl. Ranger can go top end, or close to
it.
If you must buy a "Sport"type bike get something smaller like a Honda CBR
F4i or a Suzuki Katana 750. You may well be able to find some still new
leftovers for cheap.
The Katana 750 looks OK. Thanks for the advice.

As far as leftovers ... I love eBay motors and dealerships that need to get
rid of last year's models. For a $7K bike, I doubt I'd pay over $5500 max.
Yep, leftovers are great.
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Andrew
2008-02-08 21:57:01 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
The Katana 750 looks OK. Thanks for the advice.
Hah! You know not what you speak of.
The Katana does NOT look ok!
...and this is coming from a guy who has had a bunch of jellybean shaped
Triumphs.
--
Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
05 Kiddo
Jeff Mayner
2008-02-09 09:53:25 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride,
but I'd just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for
traveling.
I have a feeling you wouldn't get the thing out of first gear. That
bike can go faster in first than your 4 cyl. Ranger can go top end,
or close to it.
If you must buy a "Sport"type bike get something smaller like a
Honda CBR F4i or a Suzuki Katana 750. You may well be able to find
some still new leftovers for cheap.
The Katana 750 looks OK. Thanks for the advice.
As far as leftovers ... I love eBay motors and dealerships that need
to get rid of last year's models. For a $7K bike, I doubt I'd pay
over $5500 max. Yep, leftovers are great.
Righty-o.

Oh, and sorry about the "Are you for real" comment. I was just a little
taken-a-back with the Hayabusa and 6 seconds thing. ;-)
The Older Gentleman
2008-02-08 21:38:41 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
Depends on the bike and the riding position. They differ more than they
look like they should.

I remember riding a Ducati 748: it was crippling. OTOH, a Kawasaki ZX10,
which looked equally suited to a contortionist, was far more comfy. And
GSXR1000 was like a settee.

"Not all sports bikes are the same."
--
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GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
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Jeff Mayner
2008-02-09 09:59:33 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels.
It looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
Depends on the bike and the riding position. They differ more than
they look like they should.
I remember riding a Ducati 748: it was crippling. OTOH, a Kawasaki
ZX10, which looked equally suited to a contortionist, was far more
comfy. And GSXR1000 was like a settee.
"Not all sports bikes are the same."
I wnet to a dealer in Fresno to buy my first really go fast bike. Had my
mind set on the GSXR1000. Sat on it and immediately got a cramp in the hip
flexors, or abductors, whatever. ;-)

Went down the line and sat on the '07 CBR1000RR. The differance was eye
opening. I bought the CBR. Put Heli risers and new brakelines on the thing
and was reasonably comfortable on it doing a 100 miler a couple of weekends
ago.

Ain't as comfy as the ST but it'll do. ;-)
The Older Gentleman
2008-02-09 10:06:41 UTC
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I wnet to a dealer in Fresno to buy my first really go fast bike. Had my
mind set on the GSXR1000. Sat on it and immediately got a cramp in the hip
flexors, or abductors, whatever. ;-)
Went down the line and sat on the '07 CBR1000RR. The differance was eye
opening.
Haven't ridden that one. Mind you, the Gixxer was a K4 or K5, too. But
yeah, as you say, super-fast and super-sharp handling doesn't
necessarily mean a trip to the chiropractor.

Ducati thought along those lines with the ST4S: essentially, a 996 with
a decent riding position, nice seat, more protective fairing and a
pannier set. A sports tourer that did 160+.

The strange thing was that nobody really bought it, although now they're
discontinued, they're quite sought-after (in the UK, anyway).
--
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GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
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Jeff Mayner
2008-02-09 10:18:30 UTC
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Post by Jeff Mayner
I wnet to a dealer in Fresno to buy my first really go fast bike.
Had my mind set on the GSXR1000. Sat on it and immediately got a
cramp in the hip flexors, or abductors, whatever. ;-)
Went down the line and sat on the '07 CBR1000RR. The differance was
eye opening.
Haven't ridden that one. Mind you, the Gixxer was a K4 or K5, too. But
yeah, as you say, super-fast and super-sharp handling doesn't
necessarily mean a trip to the chiropractor.
Ducati thought along those lines with the ST4S: essentially, a 996
with a decent riding position, nice seat, more protective fairing and
a pannier set. A sports tourer that did 160+.
The strange thing was that nobody really bought it, although now
they're discontinued, they're quite sought-after (in the UK, anyway).
I looked at those (used) before I bought my ST. Sexy (for a Sport Tourer)
and made all the right sounds. The yellow one was very nice.

Went with the Honda 'cause I was too chicken to pull the trigger on the
Italian and it's, less than Honda's, reliability issues. I'm dumb that way
sometimes. :-)
The Older Gentleman
2008-02-09 11:27:35 UTC
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Post by Jeff Mayner
Went with the Honda 'cause I was too chicken to pull the trigger on the
Italian and it's, less than Honda's, reliability issues. I'm dumb that way
sometimes. :-)
Probably a good call. Though my own Duke has been the most reliable bike
I've ever owned, and I've had it more than 10 years now.

Strange but true. It failed to start once - a brand new NGK spark plug
popped. Other than that, it's got through a couple of neutral light
switches, some wheel bearings, and... er, um, that's it, beyong the
usual consumables like chains, tyres, silencers. And the OE cans lasted
a decade.
--
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GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
Turby
2008-02-09 09:36:23 UTC
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Ducati thought along those lines with the ST4S: essentially, a 996 with
a decent riding position, nice seat, more protective fairing and a
pannier set. A sports tourer that did 160+.
The strange thing was that nobody really bought it, although now they're
discontinued, they're quite sought-after (in the UK, anyway).
I looked at one. When looking at bikes, I tend to fiddle around,
looking at details, trying to get an idea of how the design engineers
worked. What put me off the bike were the panniers. They were a pain
in the butt. Too small, too kludgy, to difficult to open and close. It
made me wonder what other parts of the bike were like that.
--
Turby the Turbosurfer
The Older Gentleman
2008-02-09 11:27:35 UTC
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What put me off the bike were the panniers. They were a pain
in the butt. Too small, too kludgy, to difficult to open and close. It
made me wonder what other parts of the bike were like that.
According to a friend who runs one, it's great.

But I know *exactly* what you mean about details like that putting one
off. I remember being so irritated by the difficulty in getting panniers
on and off a Pan-European (mid-1990s) that it spoiled my whole picture
of the bike.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F & SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
BryanUT
2008-02-08 22:07:52 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels.  It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
I can do about 500-600 miles on my F4i. It is the only bike I own so
if I want to tour it is my only choice.

If you want to TRY a sportbike do this: Go to your local Buell dealer
and ask for a test ride. I demo'd Buell, Aprilia and Ducati last
year.

BTW, I'm 51, It's not just kids that like sport bikes.
The Older Gentleman
2008-02-08 22:11:55 UTC
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Post by BryanUT
BTW, I'm 51, It's not just kids that like sport bikes.
*Waves*
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unknown
2008-02-09 19:12:15 UTC
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Post by The Older Gentleman
Post by BryanUT
BTW, I'm 51, It's not just kids that like sport bikes.
*Waves*
*waves back*

/arm drops from cramp

<g>
BrianNZ
2008-02-08 22:26:03 UTC
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Post by BryanUT
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
I can do about 500-600 miles on my F4i. It is the only bike I own so
if I want to tour it is my only choice.
If you want to TRY a sportbike do this: Go to your local Buell dealer
and ask for a test ride. I demo'd Buell, Aprilia and Ducati last
year.
BTW, I'm 51, It's not just kids that like sport bikes.
A local mag has this to say about the new Buells.......


How a Kiwi DIYer can create a replica of a new Buell , using the minimum
of tools, effort and indeed brains, for approximately half the cost of
the real thing.


1. Get a Ducati 916.

2. paint it black (apply paint with a yard broom in order to best match
the finish quality of a factory Buell)

3. Ride it into a tree!

:)
Jeff Mayner
2008-02-09 10:00:36 UTC
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Post by BryanUT
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels.
It looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
I can do about 500-600 miles on my F4i. It is the only bike I own so
if I want to tour it is my only choice.
If you want to TRY a sportbike do this: Go to your local Buell dealer
and ask for a test ride. I demo'd Buell, Aprilia and Ducati last
year.
BTW, I'm 51, It's not just kids that like sport bikes.
Roger that! ;-)
Susan (CobbersMom)
2008-02-08 22:17:23 UTC
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"David T. Ashley" <> wrote in message >I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa
on their web page. > Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable
is it for long trips?
Post by David T. Ashley
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
Post by David T. Ashley
just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
Don't do it.
Think about it, where would you put the cat?
Sue
Minocqua, WI
Yamaha '00 VStar 650
'04 TW200 (mud = fun)
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matter and those that matter, don't mind". ~Dr. Seuss
Timberwoof
2008-02-09 00:15:32 UTC
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Post by Susan (CobbersMom)
"David T. Ashley" <> wrote in message >I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa
on their web page. > Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable
is it for long trips?
Post by David T. Ashley
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
Post by David T. Ashley
just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
Don't do it.
Think about it, where would you put the cat?
Under the transmission, where it belongs.
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unknown
2008-02-09 19:13:10 UTC
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On 2008-02-08 19:15:32 -0500, Timberwoof
Post by Timberwoof
Post by Susan (CobbersMom)
"David T. Ashley" <> wrote in message >I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa
on their web page. > Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable
is it for long trips?
Post by David T. Ashley
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
Post by David T. Ashley
just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
Don't do it.
Think about it, where would you put the cat?
Under the transmission, where it belongs.
Yer goin' straight to hell for that one. ;)
RefineryDog
2008-02-08 22:55:31 UTC
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I think you answered your own question - read your post again and you will
have the answer.
Post by David T. Ashley
I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a
review that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. I also noted that
the top speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
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Road Glidin' Don
2008-02-08 23:48:23 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip myself
- but studies have shown people who had themselves neutered report
they're quite comfy.
Andrew
2008-02-08 23:56:06 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip myself
- but studies have shown people who had themselves neutered report
they're quite comfy.
So that's why chicks dig them!
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71 Kawi H1
05 Kiddo
Road Glidin' Don
2008-02-08 23:58:28 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip myself
- but studies have shown people who had themselves neutered report
they're quite comfy.
So that's why chicks dig them!
But... Wasn't Susan just saying something about pussies not fitting
on them?
Jeff Mayner
2008-02-09 10:02:01 UTC
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Post by Road Glidin' Don
Post by Andrew
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip
myself - but studies have shown people who had themselves
neutered report they're quite comfy.
So that's why chicks dig them!
But... Wasn't Susan just saying something about pussies not fitting
on them?
Timberwolf. :-)
Jeff Mayner
2008-02-09 10:02:27 UTC
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Post by Road Glidin' Don
Post by Andrew
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip
myself - but studies have shown people who had themselves
neutered report they're quite comfy.
So that's why chicks dig them!
But... Wasn't Susan just saying something about pussies not fitting
on them?
Oops.

Timberwoof. :-(
Timberwoof
2008-02-09 18:05:55 UTC
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Post by Jeff Mayner
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Post by Andrew
om...
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip
myself - but studies have shown people who had themselves
neutered report they're quite comfy.
So that's why chicks dig them!
But... Wasn't Susan just saying something about pussies not fitting
on them?
Oops.
Timberwoof. :-(
Arou?
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Jeff Mayner
2008-02-09 18:49:47 UTC
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Post by Jeff Mayner
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Post by Andrew
om...
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip
myself - but studies have shown people who had themselves
neutered report they're quite comfy.
So that's why chicks dig them!
But... Wasn't Susan just saying something about pussies not fitting
on them?
Oops.
Timberwoof. :-(
Arou?
Not at the moment. Wife took care of things this morning. :-)
Timberwoof
2008-02-09 00:14:58 UTC
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In article
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip myself
- but studies have shown people who had themselves neutered report
they're quite comfy.
Oh, Don! I wish you had asked me before taking that drastic step! Indeed
you can have your balls and enjoy your sportbike, too: it's a matter of
getting the right sport cup. Then, viola! No more smushed nuts! (I would
never be able to deal with the weekly testosterone injections. How do
you handle that?)
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Road Glidin' Don
2008-02-09 04:10:01 UTC
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:14:58 -0800, Timberwoof
Post by Timberwoof
In article
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip myself
- but studies have shown people who had themselves neutered report
they're quite comfy.
Oh, Don! I wish you had asked me before taking that drastic step!
It's the doctor's fault. He said it would rid me of my headaches!

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Andrew
2008-02-09 04:19:53 UTC
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Post by Road Glidin' Don
On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:14:58 -0800, Timberwoof
Post by Timberwoof
In article
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip myself
- but studies have shown people who had themselves neutered report
they're quite comfy.
Oh, Don! I wish you had asked me before taking that drastic step!
It's the doctor's fault. He said it would rid me of my headaches!
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It also keeps you from straying too far from home!
You're going to end up putting on weight.
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00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
05 Kiddo
Road Glidin' Don
2008-02-09 04:38:34 UTC
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:19:53 -0800, "Andrew"
Post by Andrew
Post by Road Glidin' Don
On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:14:58 -0800, Timberwoof
Post by Timberwoof
In article
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip myself
- but studies have shown people who had themselves neutered report
they're quite comfy.
Oh, Don! I wish you had asked me before taking that drastic step!
It's the doctor's fault. He said it would rid me of my headaches!
It also keeps you from straying too far from home!
You're going to end up putting on weight.
Did the subject just change to marriage when I wasn't looking?

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Jeff Mayner
2008-02-09 10:03:36 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Road Glidin' Don
On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:14:58 -0800, Timberwoof
Post by Timberwoof
In article
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip
myself - but studies have shown people who had themselves neutered
report they're quite comfy.
Oh, Don! I wish you had asked me before taking that drastic step!
It's the doctor's fault. He said it would rid me of my headaches!
--
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It also keeps you from straying too far from home!
You're going to end up putting on weight.
Probably quit jumping the fence to roam the neighborhood though, so, it may
be a good deal.
Timberwoof
2008-02-09 06:52:04 UTC
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Post by Road Glidin' Don
On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:14:58 -0800, Timberwoof
Post by Timberwoof
In article
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip myself
- but studies have shown people who had themselves neutered report
they're quite comfy.
Oh, Don! I wish you had asked me before taking that drastic step!
It's the doctor's fault. He said it would rid me of my headaches!
:/ I suggest you get a different doctor. ;-)
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BryanUT
2008-02-09 00:15:32 UTC
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Post by Road Glidin' Don
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip myself
- but studies have shown people who had themselves neutered report
they're quite comfy.
Hehe, is this "opposite world" where you play the part of Troy?

In all honesty the only discomfort I have riding my sportbike long distances
is in the neck and triceps.

That is easily (but not cheaply, about $500) fixed with a squid/stunta like
riser handler bar kit. Of course a Harley rider has NEVER swapped handle
bars to make his bike more comfortable!

Then again $500 is probably cheap for a Harley mod. :)

I do have an aftermarket Corbin seat, that is the best.
Road Glidin' Don
2008-02-09 01:01:55 UTC
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Post by BryanUT
Post by Road Glidin' Don
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip myself
- but studies have shown people who had themselves neutered report
they're quite comfy.
Hehe, is this "opposite world" where you play the part of Troy?
Yes, I even wore a pink tu-tu and hired some Harley guys to make fun
of me, to better understand his pain. ;)

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Bob Myers
2008-02-09 00:04:58 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I think it's funny that everyone in this thread so far has
focused on that word "comfortable" while ignoring the
other little aspect of "long trips"...on a 'Busa, where the
hell are you going to CARRY anything?

Bob M.
Andrew
2008-02-09 00:16:07 UTC
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Post by Bob Myers
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I think it's funny that everyone in this thread so far has
focused on that word "comfortable" while ignoring the
other little aspect of "long trips"...on a 'Busa, where the
hell are you going to CARRY anything?
Bob M.
In your softbags!
This is what I look like when I travel (except it's the speed triple that's
loaded up these days.)

http://groups.msn.com/mctrippics/seca.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=50
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00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
05 Kiddo
BryanUT
2008-02-09 03:12:01 UTC
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Post by Andrew
In your softbags!
This is what I look like when I travel (except it's the speed triple
that's loaded up these days.)
http://groups.msn.com/mctrippics/seca.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=50
How long was your trip? I use a set of Nelson-Riggs tailpack and soft bags
on the F4i.

I really need a little more storage, so a tankbag is on the list. Damn
armoured leatther jacket takes up a lot of space.
Andrew
2008-02-09 03:44:14 UTC
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Post by BryanUT
Post by Andrew
In your softbags!
This is what I look like when I travel (except it's the speed triple
that's loaded up these days.)
http://groups.msn.com/mctrippics/seca.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=50
How long was your trip? I use a set of Nelson-Riggs tailpack and soft
bags on the F4i.
I really need a little more storage, so a tankbag is on the list. Damn
armoured leatther jacket takes up a lot of space.
Around 2200 miles from Seattle down to Laguna Seca and back with some
additional riding around the BA and some really nice Norcal Roads.

Here's a pic from that WSB weekend with some AMS warriors:
http://groups.msn.com/mctrippics/seca.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=73
Notice that Bob's got 2 legs!
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00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
05 Kiddo
Turby
2008-02-09 08:57:42 UTC
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:16:07 -0800, "Andrew"
Post by Andrew
where the hell are you going to CARRY anything?
In your softbags!
This is what I look like when I travel (except it's the speed triple that's
loaded up these days.)
http://groups.msn.com/mctrippics/seca.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=50
Damn. I carry more than that bringing home the groceries.
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Jeff Mayner
2008-02-09 10:07:40 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Bob Myers
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I think it's funny that everyone in this thread so far has
focused on that word "comfortable" while ignoring the
other little aspect of "long trips"...on a 'Busa, where the
hell are you going to CARRY anything?
Bob M.
In your softbags!
This is what I look like when I travel (except it's the speed triple
that's loaded up these days.)
http://groups.msn.com/mctrippics/seca.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=50
Something about a silver bike. ;-)
Seth Hammond
2008-02-09 00:19:36 UTC
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Post by Bob Myers
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I think it's funny that everyone in this thread so far has
focused on that word "comfortable" while ignoring the
other little aspect of "long trips"...on a 'Busa, where the
hell are you going to CARRY anything?
Bob M.
Those one-wheeled trailers are trick, and should hardly be noticed up front.
BrianNZ
2008-02-09 00:25:45 UTC
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Post by Bob Myers
Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I think it's funny that everyone in this thread so far has
focused on that word "comfortable" while ignoring the
other little aspect of "long trips"...on a 'Busa, where the
hell are you going to CARRY anything?
Bob M.
Carry things!!?? I carry everything I need in my jacket
pockets......shorts, floppy hat, insect repellant sunscreen and a credit
card.

Rides are for riding, not transporting luggage!
Chuck Rhode
2008-02-09 04:41:19 UTC
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I carry everything I need in my jacket pockets......shorts, floppy
hat, insect repellant sunscreen and a credit card.
That packing list is appropriate for travel to a tropical island.
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BrianNZ
2008-02-09 06:44:40 UTC
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Post by Chuck Rhode
I carry everything I need in my jacket pockets......shorts, floppy
hat, insect repellant sunscreen and a credit card.
That packing list is appropriate for travel to a tropical island.
Well, living in a pacific paradise has it's benefits. :)

My holidays are always taken during the sunny weather, and riding is the
focus, not sightseeing or going out at night, so there is no need to
pack a bag. Motel/hotels are the only way to go....hot showers and a
good sleep are a must!
J. Clarke
2008-02-09 10:33:03 UTC
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Post by BrianNZ
Post by Chuck Rhode
I carry everything I need in my jacket pockets......shorts, floppy
hat, insect repellant sunscreen and a credit card.
That packing list is appropriate for travel to a tropical island.
Well, living in a pacific paradise has it's benefits. :)
My holidays are always taken during the sunny weather, and riding is
the focus, not sightseeing or going out at night, so there is no
need
to pack a bag. Motel/hotels are the only way to go....hot showers
and
a good sleep are a must!
I'm curious, what does a motel room cost in NZ?
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The Older Gentleman
2008-02-09 11:27:36 UTC
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Post by J. Clarke
I'm curious, what does a motel room cost in NZ?
More than a night in your trailer: less than a night in the George Cinq.
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J. Clarke
2008-02-09 15:01:07 UTC
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Post by The Older Gentleman
Post by J. Clarke
I'm curious, what does a motel room cost in NZ?
More than a night in your trailer: less than a night in the George Cinq.
Gotta be a Harley rider, assuming that every motorcyclist has a
trailer.
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BrianNZ
2008-02-09 21:33:01 UTC
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Post by J. Clarke
Post by BrianNZ
Post by Chuck Rhode
I carry everything I need in my jacket pockets......shorts, floppy
hat, insect repellant sunscreen and a credit card.
That packing list is appropriate for travel to a tropical island.
Well, living in a pacific paradise has it's benefits. :)
My holidays are always taken during the sunny weather, and riding is
the focus, not sightseeing or going out at night, so there is no
need
to pack a bag. Motel/hotels are the only way to go....hot showers
and
a good sleep are a must!
I'm curious, what does a motel room cost in NZ?
Anywhere from $75 to $150 depending on what town your'e staying in and
what 'quality' you want. You can get a small room in a country pub
(shared toilet/shower) for $50. Most caravan parks also have cabins for
hire.
laughing man
2008-02-09 23:16:36 UTC
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On Feb 9, 2:33 pm, BrianNZ <***@itnz.co.nz> wrote:

SNIP

Or you sleep for free. ;^) No wake up calls, no check out times. No
dink next door snoring louder than the horns on a BNSF 100 car
train...

--
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BrianNZ
2008-02-10 00:17:15 UTC
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Post by laughing man
SNIP
Or you sleep for free. ;^)
There are plenty of rest areas and beaches but the novelty of sleeping
in my bike gear would wear off. Emergencies only..........
Post by laughing man
No wake up calls,
The sun!
Post by laughing man
no check out times.
No shower.
Post by laughing man
No
dink next door snoring louder than the horns on a BNSF 100 car
train...
--
Keith S
I am that snorer! :)

Don't get me wrong, I like camping and the great outdoors, but I'm not
into lugging around stuff on my bike. I'm lucky if I get a week off a
year for a decent ride and I'd rather sleep well at night before the
next days ride.

Looks like the Burt Munroe rally down South will be this years
destination. Road/track/beach racing with some speedway as well.
It should be a fun weekend down there with some awesome roads in between.
laughing man
2008-02-10 09:17:36 UTC
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Post by BrianNZ
Post by laughing man
SNIP
Or you sleep for free. ;^)
There are plenty of rest areas and beaches but the novelty of sleeping
in my bike gear would wear off. Emergencies only..........
also campsites, here in the state there is KOA camps(not free but
cheap) right of ways under power lines the possabilities are endless
if you are creative. ;^)
Post by BrianNZ
Post by laughing man
No wake up calls,
The sun!
Not if you are going to sleep at the crack of dawn!
Post by BrianNZ
Post by laughing man
no check out times.
No shower.
Showers? I prefer a bath and it's not hard to find water...okay smart
aleck deserts don't count! 8^)
Post by BrianNZ
Post by laughing man
No
dink next door snoring louder than the horns on a BNSF 100 car
train...
--
Keith S
I am that snorer!  :)
Long as you are louder than a freight or a 7.7 earthquak I can sleep
through it.
Post by BrianNZ
Don't get me wrong, I like camping and the great outdoors, but I'm not
into lugging around stuff on my bike. I'm lucky if I get a week off a
year for a decent ride and I'd rather sleep well at night before the
next days ride.
Looks like the Burt Munroe rally down South will be this years
destination. Road/track/beach racing with some speedway as well.
It should be a fun weekend down there with some awesome roads in between.
That does sound fun! After 4mumblemumbel years I still enjoy sleeping
out.
--
Keith S
saddlebag
2008-02-09 01:30:45 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I think it's funny that everyone in this thread so far has
focused on that word "comfortable" while ignoring the
other little aspect of "long trips"...on a 'Busa, where the
hell are you going to CARRY anything?
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And the nice thing about sportbike hard luggage is that it is
lockable, detachable, and has handles that make carrying it to the
room after a long day a breeze. Tankbags usually have clear plastic
sleeves on the top to hold your map too.
Jeff Mayner
2008-02-09 10:06:35 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I think it's funny that everyone in this thread so far has
focused on that word "comfortable" while ignoring the
other little aspect of "long trips"...on a 'Busa, where the
hell are you going to CARRY anything?
Coretech makes a nice set of rear bags and "trunk". Looks kinda goofy on the
CBR but they work so who cares? ;-)

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Bob M.
Mike Schenk
2008-02-09 09:12:58 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a review
that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. I also noted that the top
speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.
My Honda Transalp does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. So if that's
what you're after, you don't need a Hayabusa.

Besides that, the Hayabusa is not really a sports bike but quite a
comfortable sportive touring bike, compared to real sportsbikes.

Mike
Thumper
2008-02-09 15:52:12 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a
review that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. I also noted that
the top speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
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http://www.dtashley.com (Personal Home Page)
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It depends on how you want to feel when you get to where you are going. A
Hayabusa or any crotch rocket will take you anywhere.

They're just supremely uncomfortable for any kind of long distance riding.

Let me put it this way. When your traveling out in bumfuck Egypt, what kind
of bikes do you normally see?

I see mostly BMWs and Harleys.
--
Rev. Thumper Rabbitt

Minister and Prophet,
Church of Rec.Motorcycles®.
BryanUT
2008-02-09 17:56:12 UTC
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Let me put it this way. When your traveling out in bumfuck Egypt, what
kind of bikes do you normally see?
I see mostly BMWs and Harleys.
--
And the occasional R1.

http://www.sjaaklucassen.nl/eng.html
saddlebag
2008-02-09 19:01:43 UTC
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Post by Thumper
I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page.  I noted in a
review that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds.  I also noted that
the top speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels.  It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
--
http://www.e3ft.com         (Consulting Home Page)
http://www.dtashley.com     (Personal Home Page)
http://gpl.e3ft.com         (GPL Publications and Projects)
It depends on how you want to feel when you get to where you are going. A
Hayabusa or any crotch rocket will take you anywhere.
They're just supremely uncomfortable for any kind of long distance riding.
It depends how you define "crotch rocket." There are plenty of fast
sporty bikes that are very comfortable. Race replicas are a different
story.
.
2008-02-09 19:12:48 UTC
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Let me put it this way. When your traveling out in bumfuck Egypt, what kind
of bikes do you normally see?
The only motorcyclist I encountered in Egypt was riding an FJ1200. He
was dressed
for camel riding.
Thumper
2008-02-10 15:24:04 UTC
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Post by Thumper
Let me put it this way. When your traveling out in bumfuck Egypt, what kind
of bikes do you normally see?
The only motorcyclist I encountered in Egypt was riding an FJ1200. He
was dressed
for camel riding.

I'd like to hear more about an Egypt trip. Is there really a town called
Bumfick?

T.
o***@gmail.com
2008-02-11 22:46:07 UTC
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Post by Thumper
Let me put it this way. When your traveling out in bumfuck Egypt, what kind
of bikes do you normally see?
The only motorcyclist I encountered in Egypt was riding an FJ1200. He
Are those get stolen as frequently over there as the FJs in the US?
Next
2008-02-11 21:45:05 UTC
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Post by David T. Ashley
I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a
review that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. I also noted that
the top speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.
Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long trips?
I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
--
David T. Ashley
You must be joking
Go to a motorcycle safety school first
Then buy a motorcycle appropriate to your new skills.
laughing man
2008-02-12 04:51:09 UTC
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Post by Next
You must be joking
Go to a motorcycle safety school first
Then buy a motorcycle appropriate to your new skills.
Oh and I suppose an idiot like you would suggest a Harley Davidson?
Sheesh get a brain/clue! DL650's make most excellent beginer bikes and
well...they are better than the Honda (non)equivalant.


--
Keith S
Y'all are on your own from here.
Jamin
2008-02-13 22:43:01 UTC
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I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
If you ride one for very long, you realize that leaning on your arms isn't a
good thing to do. It makes your arms, wrists and hands tired. It interferes
with your ability to steer the bike well.

The better method is to use your legs and torso to support your upper body
weight, allowing you to relax your arms and shoulders, and to keep a light
touch on the bars. This requires some leg and core body strength, but it
pays off well when you're riding.

I've never ridden a Hayabusa, so I can't comment first hand on how comfy I
found it. In general, I think most people will find anything comfortable
enough if they're suitably motivated. How much do you want to tour on a
sportbike compared to other alternatives? If you want it badly enough,
you'll find a way to enjoy it.

The biggest motivator for me to try sportbike touring was that I'm very
enamored with sportbike handling, and my touring trips are planned such that
I spend a lot of time on remote, twisty roads. I wanted nimble, lightweight,
and comfortable *enough* so that any discomfort I felt wouldn't be a
distraction or an impediment to my ability to cover distance in a day.

I'd already done touring on a so-called sport-tourer (ST1100), and while it
was far easier than touring on a sportbike, it was also far less fun. The
ST1100 is so quietly competent that it left me feeling a little disconnected
from the road and the ride. I was uninspired.

Riding an R1 is a very different experience than riding an ST1100. It
requires more diligence and effort in some ways, and makes you to sacrifice
certain comforts. But in the end I was willing to put forth the extra effort
and make the sacrifices in order to have more fun on the ride.

So how comfortable it is depends mostly on you. How comfortable do you need
to be?
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Jamin
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